As a Catholic I am bound by the church’s instruction from the Vatican II council on Ecumenical dialog starting with
UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO.
- “1. However, many Christian communions present themselves to men as the true inheritors of Jesus Christ; all indeed profess to be followers of the Lord but differ in mind and go their different ways, as if Christ Himself were divided.(1 Cor. 1, 13) Such division openly contradicts the will of Christ, scandalizes the world, and damages the holy cause of preaching the Gospel to every creature…Chapter 1.4 … first, every effort to avoid expressions, judgments and actions which do not represent the condition of our separated brethren with truth and fairness and so make mutual relations with them more difficult; then, “dialogue” between competent experts from different Churches and Communities. Chapter 1.4 (para. 5) ..their (Catholics) primary duty is to make a careful and honest appraisal of whatever needs to be done or renewed in the Catholic household itself, in order that its life may bear witness more clearly and faithfully to the teachings and institutions which have come to it from Christ through the Apostles. “
It seems that this is likely the greatest failing by myself and my fellow Catholic’s. I have rejoined my local RCIA class as a teacher, since these classes are legendary in providing a poor instructional environment.
- Chapter 1.4 (para.8) “Catholics must gladly acknowledge and esteem the truly Christian endowments from our common heritage which are to be found among our separated brethren. It is right and salutary to recognize the riches of Christ and virtuous works in the lives of others who are bearing witness to Christ, sometimes even to the shedding of their blood. For God is always wonderful in His works and worthy of all praise.”
Another area that seems to be difficult for Catholic’s.
The next important document is Pope John Paul IIUt unum sint(On commitment to Ecumenism).
- Intro. 1. (para.3) “if they wish truly and effectively to oppose the world’s tendency to reduce to powerlessness the Mystery of Redemption, they must profess together the same truth about the Cross. 2.(para.3) Nevertheless, besides the doctrinal differences needing to be resolved, Christians cannot underestimate the burden of long-standing misgivings inherited from the past, and of mutual misunderstandings and prejudices. Complacency, indifference and insufficient knowledge of one another often make this situation worse. Consequently, the commitment to ecumenism must be based upon the conversion of hearts and upon prayer, which will also lead to the necessary purification of past memories. With the grace of the Holy Spirit, the Lord’s disciples, inspired by love, by the power of the truth and by a sincere desire for mutual forgiveness and reconciliation, are called to re-examine together their painful past and the hurt which that past regrettably continues to provoke even today. All together, they are invited by the ever fresh power of the Gospel to acknowledge with sincere and total objectivity the mistakes made and the contingent factors at work at the origins of their deplorable divisions. What is needed is a calm, clear-sighted and truthful vision of things, a vision enlivened by divine mercy and capable of freeing people’s minds and of inspiring in everyone a renewed willingness, precisely with a view to proclaiming the Gospel to the men and women of every people and nation.”
- Chapter 1. 29 … It is necessary to pass from antagonism and conflict to a situation where each party recognizes the other as a partner. When undertaking dialogue, each side must presuppose in the other a desire for reconciliation, for unity in truth. For this to happen, any display of mutual opposition must disappear. Only thus will dialogue help to overcome division and lead us closer to unity.”
I myself live with the division of the reformation on a daily basis. My wonderful wife and daughter are practicing Baptist’s, while my 2 sons & I are practicing Catholic’s. It is therefore essential to my life to heal the wounds as possible.
QB,
I don’t think I knew that about your family.
My wife is, of course, Lutheran and I am too at least nominally; i.e. I am a member of that church. My children are Lutheran as well.
But I don’t really know what I actually am.
I’m some kind of weird Ecclesial Frankenstein, a Cathobaptiluthyterian.
There are things which keep me from returning to the RCC, but if I had to put my finger on a single issue, it would have to be what I see as her apparent stand on the Gospel as being non-exclusive; i.e. Anyone can be saved regardless of whether they have explicit knowledge of the Gospel or not, indeed, whether they even hear it or not.
I may be reducing the position considerably, but that is how it seems.
Grammar Nazi note: don’t use apostrophes when pluralizing nouns.
“Quickbeam”,
You left a comment on my blog earlier today in regards to Balthasar. I am happy to find your blog. I am going to give it a good ‘once over.’ But I thought you might be interested to know that this past December, in a quarterly journal entitled “Lutheran Forum”, an essay of mine, “The Incomprehensible God and Ecumenical Fairplay,” was published. It treats Balthasar’s theology in an ecumenical light, especially in light of a comment made by Soren Kierkegaard about the state of the Church at his time. And so I draw parallels between their common critique. If you can access it somehow, you might be interested in it. The journal site is http://www.lutheranforum.org/
Thanks, but I wasn’t able to access that article. Please feel free to comment on anything that perks your interest.
“quickbeam”, I think, if you are really interested, you can request a free copy here http://www.lutheranforum.org/free-issue
I was raised Catholic but left in my late teens. Came back to Christ in my early forties but as a (gasp!) Protestant fundamentalist, who soon learned how twisted the RC was.
Five years later I belong to a ‘trans’ denominational church that employs sacred elements from many Christian (and at times Hebrew) traditions. We are an ’emerging’ church but I clearly see this movement as having it’s beginnings in Vatican II. Very lately I have been revisiting and enjoying the Roman Catholic traditions that helped shape my current image of God.
I like your site and look forward to reading more. Thanks.
Ah.. twisted should have been in quotation marks -sarcasm. Sorry if anyone took it the wrong way.
Thanks Christian, no offense taken.